Misc. Fuselage Tasks - Priming, Installing Floors, and More
5/22/2005 - 590.4 Me Hours, 635.1Total Hours
Here there was a variety of
stuff accomplished. The description and photos won't do the work
justice, but it took hours to do all the prep. I did get the step
installed. They had at least one bolt that was Waaay too long,
requiring something like 5 washers if you wanted to make it about
right. I just got new bolts. I primed all of the floor and
wall panels underneath, so they could be sealed up. Then later I
ended up priming the other side of most parts.
I riveted in the rear floor panels, and it found one of what I'd call
the "impossible rivet" Just on the left and right side of each
floor panel, the forward most rivets. They're hidden by seat
brackets and impossible to get to with either LP4-3 pop rivets, or
I finished soundproofing the floor of the baggage area, and routing
conduit through. My 1.05" ID corrugated conduit is wire-tied to
bolted on tie-wrap blocks onto the ribs...that conduit isn't going
anywhere. I also ended up running a 2nd small 3/8" I.D. tubing
conduit from the outer panel of the rear seat, through 3 seat ribs, and
then rearward to the tailcone. This is for the left and right
wing strobe wires. I've heard you can run them with the rest of
the stuff, but since I don't want to worry about noise, and you
couldn't correct it easily later, I just ran that 2nd conduit.
Now they'll go all the way from tail to wings as a separate wire,
and in the wings they'll be separate too. I also fashioned a
special hanging bracket for the large orange conduit where it comes out
a lightening hole in the rear bulkhead. It's not kosher to just
run the thing out through the hole and let it flop, so I secured it so
that it won't rub on the hole, and can't drop free. Self-designed
brackets and all. Took some time, but I now can say I did it
I spent a lot of time with my pop-rivet tool. My right hand is
ready for action now. Those floor panels and seat panels get
My 2nd "impossible" rivet turned out to be possible with a
modification. The rear baggage door bracket has 2 nutplates on it
that you can't
rivet one of the rivets each on. I ended up putting a hole in the
back flange of the bracket (won't be visible and won't matter), that is
just wide enough for the thinnest rivet set in my squeezer. Then
I could squeeze them. See the photos for more.
Then I riveted the floor panels in place, and scuffed all the parts.
I primed them in prepartation for painting the interior.
Just have to pick out some cool paint to match my seat fabric
now. I primed the entire interior except for the stainless part
of the firewall. Note: I didn't mask off my brake lines.
That's the only sloppy mess I feel a little bad about. Oh
well, I can either try to clean them off, or just not worry about it.
They'll be hidden anyway.
I started the baggage door, but found I was missing the hinge and now
I'm hung up on that again. At the very bottom of this page,
you'll see a current list of missing parts for the QB fuse...at least
at my time of shipping.
You can also see that I had visitors in the shop. I taught my 4
and 6 year olds how to drill, and the 6 year old did a little deburring
for me. I shoulda waited to start this kit for another year or
two....I could then have just hung out in a lawn chair and paid them an
allowance for building my -10. Kids are supposed to listen to
their parents, right?
If you have a QB fuse, you
probably should check the quantities of some
of these parts. Some are not even listed on the inventory
If you have more to add to this list, send it on and I'll
this on the website.
Front Floor panels:
If you didn't get the floor panels, you probably didn't get the
needed either. They will send that with them. I was still
CS4-4's in that hardware pack. Also, there were no K1000-3
to put under the front legs of the gear brackets (the ones that bolt
through the floorpans). Hardware bag 1455 includes 2 K1000-3's,
but you need 4 to do the floorpans. You probably
should get a
couple extra K1000-3's because if you were short already by 4,
who knows how many more will come up.
I got tipped off from another lister and found these missing too:
For brackets holding fuel/brake lines under front seats:
AN515-6R8 (qty 8)
AN960-6 (qty 8)
AN365-632 (qty 8)
I found you will be real short on the K1000-8 nutplates. They
do include 40 in the hardware bags, but I found at LEAST this many
P. 28-7 (6)
P. 32-5 (2)
P. 33-7 (8)
P. 33-9 (5)
P. 34-7 (4)
P. 35-3 (8)
P. 41-5 (6)
P. 33-10 (24)
That totals 63. How they missed by that far I have NO idea.
I have a 3' piece, but you need to have about 3' for the 2 rear
seats, and about 2' for the baggage door. I'm going to
on and cut my 3' piece for the baggage door and get them to send
another 3' piece.
None are in hardware list, but 4 are required on Pg 35-3.
4 are required per side....attaching the control bracket under
front seats. pg 28-14. None are included in the
F-6114B and F-6114C: These are blocks that go in the rear baggage
wall...I think for friction prevention where the seat belt cables come
through the rear wall. 2 each are required on P. 33-10, none are
LP4-3's: They send a quantity of I think 275, but I am now
out. I can see that I used 196 on the rear seat area, + 39 in the
baggage area for misc. panels, + 14 in the rear passenger floors.
Then you get to P. 35-3 to put the bottom on the bracket that
up the rear seat and it requires 50 right there, pushing you over the
You will need to buy a Baggage door lock ES A-510-2K with Mag Switch
or you won't have a way to latch your baggage door.
On the front section, right above and behind the NACA vents, there's a
"wire cover" that gets screwed down. There are 3 spots for nutplates
pre-drilled in the longeron F1040-L & -R. They hold
down the wire
cover F-1042G-L&R on page 35-7. My longerons are
couldn't find the spot in the plans where these get drilled for
nutplates, or if it's done at the factory, but, I also couldn't find
where the nutplates are installed, so I have no idea what type are
supposed to go there. I'll have to call in to verify this.
Hopefully this list will help you people with QB Fuselage's not get
stuck at various points along the process. I am very
every time I went into a section, I ran into a barrier of a missing
or something that had a dependency. Then I'd start another
go until I ran into another missing part. I would not be
bothered by this if at least once in this process I heard of a builder
that actually got contacted by Van's, and told "Hey, we figured out
your kit was probably missing these parts....if you check for these,
we'll send you out some if they're missing". But, it looks
just fix the quanties in the kits....and they let the previous buyers
slide until they figure it out and complain. That bugs me a
bit. I got
QB fuse # 40, or is it #44....but I suppose that's still early enough
to be finding mistakes.